On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 05:08:08PM +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > There's quite a lot wrong here - a video meeting(!) to discuss > dropping a commonly used and well established channel of > communication. Well, I guess at least you didn't decide to use the > proprietary awfulness of Slack. > > Couldn't you just talk about this on email? We can do that too; Neal just suggested a video call as way to get interested parties together. And, yeah, I'm also not interested in slack. > What's the reason why hosting your own server for a fairly uncommon > chat protocol is better than continuing to use IRC? There are a number of things: * We know IRC is a barrier for new users. Any onboarding which has to include explaining what NickServ is is starting underwater -- and that's just the start of it! * IRC doesn't have persistence. People want that. Setting up ZNC is another barrier. * Being able to add reactions, send images, and edit typos are not essential, but really quite nice. * It's not all that uncomming; Mozilla, GNOME, and openSUSE have also moved to Matrix. * Since you mentioned Slack: let's get behind an open source alternative before it's too late. * Matrix has reasonably decent bridging to IRC, which will make migration easy (and if you don't want to migrate ever, that will remain an option). ... and probably others. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx