On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 2:52 PM Ken Dreyer <ktdreyer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 4:15 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:07:29AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: >> > I still believe that this concept is inherently incompatible with the idea >> > of a cooperative community distribution, and that bringing it up again and >> > again with minimally changed wording is not a constructive thing to do. >> > >> > I can see why RHEL has a business case for having such "second-class >> > citizen" packages, but this is not how Fedora works or should work. >> >> Well, except, it clearly *does* work that way. We have many >> lightly-maintained packages in practice. I think it's better to label them >> as such and find positive ways to encourage the collaboration I think we all >> agree is best, rather than the current state where we basically just pretend >> that everything is maintained with high attention. (snip) > I'm not sure anyone's pretending. > > In my experience distros that spilt up into many repos add complexity (and mistakes) on the releng side and a poor UX for the users. > > If we had labels in Pagure for the packages that you consider to be troublesome, would that help? I completely agree. This is one of the reasons I switched away from ubuntu years ago (with its 4 (?) tiers of support + repos for its packages ...). While I think SIGs would be appropriate for sharing maintenance of dependencies of a certain stack, what I thought about recently was to give those packages to a "nursery" user (similar to an "orphan" user), which would keep them safe from removal, but mark them as "do not remove, but no single user is responsible for this". Fabio _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
