On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 3:43 PM Tom Stellard <tstellar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 11/4/20 3:34 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > > On 04/11/2020 20:31, Tom Stellard wrote: > >> On 11/4/20 3:22 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > >>> On 04/11/2020 19:46, Tom Stellard wrote: > >>>> On 11/4/20 2:10 PM, Tom Hughes via devel wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Also I'm suspicious about the quality of that list because it > >>>>> includes packages of mine that only use make via cmake and which > >>>>> do BR cmake which in turn requires make. > >>>> > >>>> For the purposes of this proposal, your packages still need to > >>>> BuildRequires: make. I don't want to depend on this kind of > >>>> indirect dependency to keep things working, because it can be fragile. > >>> > >>> So instead I'm supposed to somehow know what tools the tools > >>> that I use choose to invoke under the covers? Where does that > >>> insanity end exactly? Do I have to require gas because gcc > >>> will use it to assemble the code it generates? > >>> > >> > >> No, in that case gcc needs to Require: gas, because it is a run-time > >> dependency of that package. > >> > >> CMake will still work if make is not installed. Packages that use > >> cmake + Ninja should require those packages, and packages that use > >> cmake + make should require those packages too. > > > > I don't choose either. I just run cmake and it chooses what to > > use as it's default build tool. If I told it to use a specific > > build tool then I would see your point, but for the default one > > it seems reasonable that it should require it as it has made > > the decision to use it. > > > > Ok, I think this is a fair point especially after the f33 change were we > are now using cmake --build and cmake --install instead of invoking make > directly. > > The only issue is if cmake changes make to be a weak dependency can we > still rely on this? Do brew builds automatically install weak dependencies? > Koji/Brew disables weak dependencies. The weak dependency would be for developer convenience. > If the change was automated and you did not have to do anything would > you still be opposed to having your spec files updated with > BuildRequires: make > You still need BR: make. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
