Sometimes logging out of GNOME doesn't work (ctrl+alt+del has no effect). Regular users will hard reboot (and hopefully select linux again when grub asks what OS to boot). I've ran ps ax and started killing processes to find out which won't die, as gnome-session-save --kill was running. esd was running with parameters /usr/bin/esd -terminate -nobeeps -as 2 -spawnfd 13 and it will die only on killall -9. I don't know what starts it, I haven't enabled it in sound preferences. As a temporary solution I renamed /usr/bin/esd so it won't run again. Ever :D -- Marius Andreiana -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list