Re: EOL and Obsoletes in Modularity

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 8:52 AM Martin Curlej <mcurlej@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,

EOL and Obsoletes were planned as a feature of Modularity. The feature should enable to set shorter/longer life cycles on Modules than the OS release. The initial idea was to set this information in the disgit metadata of a Module. As time went by the requirements have changed.

From my point of view right now it seems that this information should not be a part of the module (disgit, repository metadata). It is prone to human error when we leave this in the hands of a packager. So this would need a review of Engineering to be reliable.

Next is that a lot of 3rd parties like to handle the EOL and Obsoletes of packages/modules by other means, which makes this redundant.  Also, as the release cycle of Fedora is so fast, I am not sure this is a necessary feature at all

I spoke to people in the community and I got mixed information/opinions, so I want to open a discussion about this feature. So WDYT? Is this necessary for Fedora? If yes, how should we handle this?

At the end of the day for Fedora, packagers are maintaining the modules, so they should be able to mark a module as EOL when they feel like they don't want it in the distribution anymore. As for module obsoletes, this is necessary for supporting transitions and upgrades, which broke two Fedora release upgrades because there was no way to handle this.

Additionally, with my third-party packager hat on, I need these to be declarable in the module metadata so that it's easy to convey in a machine-enforceable way when something is maintained/supported or not. I don't know which third-parties you've been talking to, but as an actual third-party packager who does work for an ISV that supports Fedora and RHEL/CentOS for a product, I don't know where else I would put it.



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