Re: This is bad, was Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal:???? systemd-resolved

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On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 07:16:38AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 12:34 am, Marius Schwarz <fedoradev@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >If you send a DNS REQUEST to a US DNS server from within a company
> >network, and with ipv6 the internal ip is sent out i learned lately, you
> >have sent personal data which is protected under the GDRP. It's not
> >unlikely to use company pcs for private webvisits while having a meal
> >break.
> 
> Hm, thanks for the explanation. I guess the DNS request would indeed be the
> *first* way you lose, because you have to do DNS before you do anything
> else. But you are going to lose immediately after anyway:
> 
> * Immediately after you connect to the network, Fedora connects to
> http://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt to see if you're behind a
> captive portal
> * Next, GNOME Software starts checking for updates in the background. You've
> leaked "personal data" to fedoraproject.org again, and also fwupd.
> * You open Firefox, it downloads Safe Browsing data from Google. (Admittedly
> this one is probably only behind a European CDN, but maybe Google is having
> a bad day, or maybe IP address logs are sent to the US.) Oh yeah, it also
> displays news from Pocket. Probably it does more connections to the US that
> I don't know about.
> * You switch to Financial Mode in Calculator, it downloads exchange rate
> data.
> * Anything crashes. A truncated stack trace gets sent to Fedora.
> 
> I'm sure my list is missing quite a lot.
> If your interpretation is correct,
> then I suppose German companies should immediately discontinue use of
> Fedora, and also most other computer operating systems....

Only those that think that they are smarter that a user and ignore her/his
privacy.  The things in the list above definitely either shouldn't be
done at all (like captive portla checks and checks for updates), or ask
for explicit user consent (everything else).
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