On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 09:09:51PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 17. 09. 20 v 18:29 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): > > Well, many maintainers don't touch packages that keep working and don't > > need updates or bugfixes. > > That is perfectly fine and I expect that in such cases, the maintainer > would step up and responded to BZ, explained situation and intentions, > everything would be documented and we could move on. But maintainers > also does not touch packages, because the keep building and that is > different situation. > I think that nagging maintainers with "Do you want to keep your package in Fedora" question is too burdensome for the maintainers and a disservice for the users. > > So, if we know the package doesn't work, we > > should file a bug on it. If not, I am not sure if we should try and > > remove such packages. > > Just out of curiosity, I filed this bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1880144 > > I used to see a lot of similar packages in Ruby land. Nowadays, they are > finally gone, because somebody used the non-responsive maintainer policy > in the end. But I don't want to use non-responsive maintainer policy, > because I think some package does not serve it purpose anymore. > How exactly does a presence of that package offend you? That relengs have to rebuild it twice a year? That you have to download the few kilobytes in repodata? That when you change Ruby packaging standards, you have to patch the spec file? I think that a package should be removed for a real issue that it causes. Not because of its age. > Actually, maintaining 200 packages myself, it might happen that some of > them are in zombie state. I would not mind if they were called out via > this process. > Then start with yourself. Go and file bugs for your 200 packages. Then review whether they are used by Fedora users. Be ware that Fedora packager is not a Fedora user. And then close the bugs or retire the packages. And then come and tell us how much fruitful it was and how much productive you were. If you feel exhausted by maintaingin the 200 packages, then orphan them. Fedora already has a process for dealing with unmaintained packages. A spoiler: Eventually they will be removed from the distribution. -- Petr
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