Hi, These are based on Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-33-20200828.n.0.iso in a VM. The numbers are different on bare metal but correlate. The only standout is rngd.service. That's a pretty big single hit, percentage wise. And I don't know if we even need it anymore. Among the rest, perhaps atd.service and crond.service could be disabled by default on new installations, in favor of systemd timers. Startup finished in 1.320s (kernel) + 1.344s (initrd) + 7.727s (userspace) = 10.392s disable atd.service Startup finished in 1.308s (kernel) + 1.310s (initrd) + 7.557s (userspace) = 10.176s disable dbxtool.service Startup finished in 1.302s (kernel) + 1.291s (initrd) + 7.527s (userspace) = 10.120s disable import-state.service Startup finished in 1.308s (kernel) + 1.326s (initrd) + 7.410s (userspace) = 10.044s disable iscsi.service Startup finished in 1.316s (kernel) + 1.303s (initrd) + 7.177s (userspace) = 9.797s disable libvirtd.service Startup finished in 1.316s (kernel) + 1.266s (initrd) + 6.779s (userspace) = 9.361s disable lvm2-monitor.service Startup finished in 1.315s (kernel) + 1.323s (initrd) + 6.750s (userspace) = 9.389s disable mdmonitor.service Startup finished in 1.316s (kernel) + 1.350s (initrd) + 6.675s (userspace) = 9.342s disable ModemManager.service Startup finished in 1.270s (kernel) + 1.305s (initrd) + 7.052s (userspace) = 9.629s disable nfs-convert.service Startup finished in 1.312s (kernel) + 1.343s (initrd) + 6.958s (userspace) = 9.614s disable rngd.service Startup finished in 1.308s (kernel) + 1.277s (initrd) + 5.247s (userspace) = 7.833s disable switcheroo-control.service Startup finished in 1.308s (kernel) + 1.334s (initrd) + 5.223s (userspace) = 7.867s disable vboxservice.service Startup finished in 1.301s (kernel) + 1.302s (initrd) + 5.176s (userspace) = 7.780s disable crond.service Startup finished in 1.310s (kernel) + 1.278s (initrd) + 5.076s (userspace) = 7.665s preset-all Startup finished in 1.316s (kernel) + 1.312s (initrd) + 7.869s (userspace) = 10.498s ##stopwatch 11.35 disable atd.service crond.service iscsi.service rngd.service vboxservice.service Startup finished in 1.305s (kernel) + 1.294s (initrd) + 5.505s (userspace) = 8.105s ##stopwatch 8.89 All of these times are based on 'systemd-analyze'. The stopwatch method is less precise but still demonstrates the difference is real. It may not be a big enough deal to do anything about it this cycle, but could be something to look at for the next. Maybe more opportunities are available. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx