On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 5:56 PM Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 10:06 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:11 PM Adam Williamson > > <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > ==== Basic networking ==== > > > > > > It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections > > > using DHCP and static addressing. The default network configuration > > > tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops must work well > > > enough to allow typical network connection configuration operations > > > without major workarounds. Standard network functions such as address > > > resolution and connections with common protocols such as ping, HTTP and > > > ssh must work as expected. > > > > What about mDNS? > > ehhhhhhh > > I am probably a bit biased on this front because I always found mDNS to > be a pile of garbage and gave up trying to use it a while back. :P But > if a significant amount of people are actually using it and relying on > it, adding it might make sense. Anyone else have input on this? Who out > there does use mDNS? The IPP Everywhere specification requires clients to support DNS-SD (mDNS is part of that) or WS-Discovery. Printers are required to support both DNS-SD and WS-Discovery. Avahi and systemd-resolved support DNS-SD, functionally equating DNS-SD and mDNS. Final release criterion says printing via the generic IPP driver must work. This implies discovery or you can't print. Or accept a craptastic user experience by fudging the requirement to say, well as long as an IP address works, the criterion is met. It's even less of a leap if folks can't discover other services like SMB shares. That's more common than printing. Between avahi and systemd-resolved, I'm not sure which one is more dependable for blocking on. Or whether their maintainers would be on board with such a criterion. At least for F33, Avahi is what we're using on desktops for this. Both resolve and respond are disabled in systemd-resolved so if it's better to do this with systemd-resolved, then it probably needs a Fedora 34 feature proposal. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx