Re: Strange build failures in rawhide buildroot (cont'd) - glibc 2.33 dev snapshot?

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On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 12:37 AM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2020-08-14 at 21:14 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:48 PM Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2020-08-14 at 20:30 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > > > So, I've been trying to figure out strange build failures in my
> > > > Java
> > > > packages when running mock with `--enablerepo local`.
> > > >
> > > > First I thought java-11-openjdk update might be to blame, but now
> > > > I
> > > > found another "unrelated" issue:
> > > >
> > > > OCaml packages built with dune and `--enablerepo local` right now
> > > > produce packages where binaries get permissions `555` set instead
> > > > of
> > > > `755` despite dune explicitly setting 755.
> > > >
> > > > So ... Huh?
> > > >
> > > > The only package update other than python 3.9 beta 5 → python 3.9
> > > > rc
> > > > 1
> > > > and a Java update that happened in this time frame - which might
> > > > affect *both* Java *and* OCaml builds in weird ways - would be
> > > > ...
> > > > the
> > > > first glibc 2.33 development snapshot.
> > >
> > > It is against the new policy rules, please only update rawhide
> > > after
> > > completing the first branched compose and his mirror
> > > synchronization. i.e when we have a new buildroot .
> > >
> > > While the compose today seems successful is not yet published
> >
> > Sérgio, I have no idea what you're talking about here. Do you mean
> > the
> > new policy to wait with a rawhide compose until the first "branched"
> > compose is successful and synced out?
>
> yes
>
> > If I understand correctly, that
> > "policy" is enforced by bodhi not allowing any builds into "branched"
> > by default, and releng not launching any rawhide composes until a
> > "branched" compose finishes.
>
>
> > I have no superpowers that allow me to circumvent those restrictions
> > :)
> > If I had, I would untag glibc 2.22.9000 to check if it is indeed
> > broken, or if my development PC is haunted instead.

(snip)

> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/?packages=glibc
>
> glibc-2.32.9000-1.fc34 has been submitted for stable by bodhi
> a day ago ...

There's a difference between bodhi pushing a rawhide update to
"stable" and it being included in "rawhide" repositories.
Because bodhi does not compose rawhide. It just marks packages as "to
be included in the next compose".

> In my view, if f33 has not yet been composed and published, all
> packages that are in rawhide shouldn't have changes to what will be
> f33, to allow for a smooth transaction and not make things more hard
> that it is .

This is exactly what's already happening.

I think you're missing the "compose" step that's happening between
things getting built and them actually getting included in "public"
repositories.
Because that step has not happened for a few days, "to allow for a
smooth transaction", as you put it.

> And I don't understand what is the rush of update things in rawhide ,
> why people can't wait one week until things calm down , is just an
> exercise of coordination. And BTW, the opposite, we also should avoid
> last minute changes, before mass-rebuild :)

I am in no rush, but I also don't want to wait for a week twiddling my
thumbs for no good reason.

PS: I agree, rushing changes into rawhide before the mass rebuild is a
bad idea, but that's a different problem ...

> Hopefully f33 is almost published .

F33 won't be "published" for another two months :)
But if you're talking about a successful f33 compose, it already
happened half a day ago, and the repos and mirrors should get updated
soon ...
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/WATCKLQ7S3B77CT4UGBPUPN3NJQGIJWU/

Fabio
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