On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:10 AM Mat Booth <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 13:26, Petr Pisar <ppisar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 01:44:07PM +0200, Daniel Mach wrote: > > > There's a Modularity Improvements Objective draft available[1]. > > > > > > The Objective summarizes the work that is in progress already as well as > > > highlights our plans for Fedora 34. > > > > > > We're planning to fix the current modularity in Fedora 33 and 34. > > > We may look into alternatives or bigger design changes in Fedora 35 and > > > later. > > > > > > You can find more details in the Objective document[1]. > > > > > > - Daniel > > > > > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/Modularity_Improvements_2020 > > > > I hope that you find resources to properly maintain MBS. Currently (last two > > weeks) it cannot build the modules > > <https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9066>. > > > > -- Petr > > I opened this ticket more than two months ago. :-( > > What's *worse* is that before I filed that infra ticket I filed this > ticket [1] at the MBS upstream project and that got *absolutely* no > response. Complete silence. In fact *no* ticket reported there haven't > seen any activity in months. Not exactly confidence inspiring for the > future of the project. > > [1] https://pagure.io/fm-orchestrator/issue/1640 > > I've tried *so* hard to get on board with modularity but I think I'm > done with modules now in Fedora. > > In the early days the people who maintained MBS were super helpful and > worked hard to fix the bugs I found in it, but now it feels like those > days are gone and still it's just hurdle after hurdle. All I want is > an easy life, and I thought modules were that, but it's impossible to > get anything done in a timely manner, builds have required so much > babysitting, the MBS requiring (already scarce) releng resources to > intervene periodically.... Honestly, it's been just exhausting and > demoralising how many man-hours have gone to waste. So I've pulled all > my packages back into mainline Fedora since that seems to be the path > of least resistance even though I will once again have to maintain > multiple branches of my whole stack of packages. > > Interesting experiment, maybe, but if there's going to be no > commitment to pay the on-going cost of infra maintenance and fix the > design-flaws or whatever serious problem is currently holding back > MBS, then I have to end the experiment for my own sanity at least. > Unfortunately, MBS is maintained by a different team: the team that maintains Koji. I am unsure about what they're planning to do, but I hope they're going to do *something*. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
