Re: Enable EarlyOOM on Fedora KDE - Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal

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On Thursday, July 9, 2020 5:25:36 AM MST Rex Dieter wrote:
> John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> 
> 
> > That's not what this discussion results from. This discussion results
> > from
> > somebody outside the KDE SIG deciding the KDE Spin needs EarlyOOM killing
> > our applications at random, and ruining our desktop experience.
> 
> 
> This is full of inaccurate statements
> 
> 1.  The KDE SIG (at least some) was made aware of this feature and were ok 
> with it.  It wasn't someone outside deciding anything.

What's the KDE SIG's rationale behind supporting this? This actively limits 
the amount of RAM that end users are able to make use of. The more RAM the end 
user has, the more RAM is not available for use, because EarlyOOM will kill 
software long before it's able to be used. For example, on my system, with 6 
GiB of RAM, this will send SIGTERM while I still have over half of a gigabyte 
of RAM, and SIGKILL while I still have over a quarter of a gigabyte of RAM. 
There's absolutely no justification for this, as I see it.

> 2.  It's clear you don't like this feature, but characterizing it as random
>  and ruining things is going a bit far (to put it mildly).

Not at all, see the above example. Most users have more RAM than I do, not 
less, and even then, it's hurting the UX.

-- 
John M. Harris, Jr.

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