Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

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On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:26 PM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Monday, July 6, 2020 5:24:32 AM MST Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > Default fedora disk layout in UEFI mode is partitions for ESP, /boot and
> > LVM.  If you ask for full disk encryption LVM is encrypted, ESP + boot
> > are not.  Which makes sense to me.  Why would you encrypt /boot?  The
> > files you can find there are public anyway, you can download them from
> > the fedora servers.  Encrypting /boot would make the boot process more
> > fragile for no benefit.
>
> I guess that shows how unfamiliar I am with UEFI boot Fedora. You would
> encrypt /boot to ensure that your boot images have not been tampered with, or
> config files haven't been read by somebody other than the end user.
>

Encryption != integrity/authentication. The only thing encryption
guarantees is that the data is not visible, not that it hasn't been
tampered with. Usually, dm-verity or dm-integrity is used for what
you're asking for. Android uses dm-verity, if I remember correctly.

>
> > sd-boot still wouldn't work out-of-the-box though, due to /boot being
> > xfs not vfat and firmware typically not shipping with xfs drivers.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, XFS is the default used on RHEL, but ext4 is still used
> for /boot in Fedora, by default.
>
> > We could that by using vfat for /boot.  Or by shipping & using xfs.efi,
> > simliar to how apple ships & uses apfs.efi to boot macOS from apfs
> > filesystems.
>
> Is there a notable benefit to using that over GRUB2, which already has support
> on both UEFI and BIOS?
>

Less complexity in the boot chain, mainly. But the EFI drivers would
need to be signed by MS, I think? That would massively complicate
things.


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