On Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:08:14 AM MST Brandon Nielsen wrote: > On 7/2/20 12:55 AM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > <Snip> > > > > > > Lennart, > > > > We don't need more systemd-bloat just to boot our systems. However your > > bootloader works, it doesn't really matter if it's not up to snuff with > > GRUB2. When it supports LUKS, LVM, LUKS+LVM, a recovery console and > > several filesystems, then it'll be more of a viable option, and I still > > wouldn't recommend having yet another systemd component as a core part of > > our systems. At what point is systemd large enough that you'll stop > > adding more cruft? > > > Can you please stop calling features of systemd you don't like > "systemd-bloat" at every given opportunity? It is not being respectful > to those who work on the project and doesn't help your argument. It works well with this one. It's part of systemd, for some reason. It's bloat. It's one letter off from the actual name of the software. It doesn't need to be part of systemd to integrate with it. We don't need to make our system more exclusive to make use of some systemd features, we can just use the more powerful bootloader, GRUB2, and implement what it needs to make use of these systemd "features". -- John M. Harris, Jr. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx