Fabio, does it mean that the Java SIG agrees with progressing with the Change to Java 11 as a default?
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 4:02 PM Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:52 AM Jiri Vanek <jvanek@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 6/29/20 1:59 PM, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 2:39 PM Jiri Vanek <jvanek@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jvanek@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> > Current stats from my testing samples:
> > 408 failing
> > 263 passing
> >
> >
> > Are these numbers reversed ^^^ ? Looking at
> > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/java-maint-sig/java-11-default/monitor/ I see a bit more
> > than 200 ftbfs.
>
> I'm afraid not. But if you are right, then maybe I'm doing something wrong, and it is all a bit more
> positive then I think.
>
> Thanx!
I don't know if I've set up the Java SIG COPR for Java 11 rebuilds
differently than you set up yours. Maybe you haven't incorporated the
xmvn-javadoc change yet? It could explain the ~200 additional build
failures.
Looking at the latest state in our COPR test repo, I see 202 failing
packages and 461 building packages, which isn't looking too bad
considering how the numbers looked at the start.
> Since f29, about 1000 java packages died or were orphaned. I was removing packages where upstream is
> dead and are orphaned (so no chance to make them reliable working with jdk11), and I found that
> wildfly, jenkins, jboss, half of maven plugins, elastic search, apach-emina, infinispan, cassandra,
> hibernate.... All are dead. What is javastack for now (no blame or evil in that)?
>
> So maybe the system jdk11 can be used as just last death-blow to java stack, rethink it, and stat
> rebuilding on pretty fresh field....
Why? If nobody needs those packages and nobody wants to maintain them,
then they should stay dead.
Right now, the core Java stack (including everything that's necessary
to build itself) amounts to about 200 packages, which is already a lot
of packages for limited manpower (Stewardship SIG / Java SIG). Unless
somebody wants to step up (or Red Hat actually wants its Java projects
packaged for fedora again), this is not going to change, I'm afraid.
Fabio
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