On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:00 AM Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 10:26 am, Stephen Gallagher > <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > For the record, as this directly affects the Workstation deliverable, > > I will be voting -1 until and unless the Workstation WG votes in > > favor. > > > > Yes, it's a large set of Change owners, but since only two of them are > > Workstation WG members, they are not representative of that group. > > Workstation WG hat on: > > I don't think there's any need to vote -1 for that reason alone. The > Workstation WG has discussed the change proposal at several meetings > recently (really, we've spent a long time on this), and frankly we were > not making a ton of progress towards reaching a decision either way, so > going forward with the change proposal and moving the discussion to > devel@ to get feedback from a wider audience and from FESCo seemed like > a good idea. Most likely, we'll wind up doing whatever FESCo chooses > here, but unless FESCo were to explicitly indicate intent to override > the Workstation WG, we would not consider a FESCo decision to limit > what the Workstation WG can do with the Workstation product. At least, > my understanding of the power structure FESCo has established is that > the WG can make product-specific decisions that differ from FESCo's > decisions whenever we want, unless FESCo says otherwise (because FESCo > always has final say). That is, if FESCo were to approve btrfs by > default, but Workstation WG were to vote to stick with ext4, then we > would stick with ext4 unless FESCo were to say "no really, you need to > switch to btfs" (which I highly doubt would happen). So I don't see any > reason to vote -1 here out of concern for overriding the WG. > As I said earlier when I brought up the kernel stance on this, I very much consider this a Workstation WG decision. If the Workstation WG can not come to a consensus, I don't think it should be on FESCo to force one. It is not like what is there now is broken. Going from EXT4 to BTRFS or any other file system is a series of trade offs. You gain some features, you lose some features. I would recommend that FESCo not take this up until the Workstation WG can come to a consensus. Justin _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx