Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

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On 6/29/20 12:38 PM, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:
On 6/27/20 11:40 PM, Tom Seewald wrote:
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 7:32 PM Garry T. Williams <gtwilliams(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:


Just a PSA: btrfs raid1 does not have a concept of automatic degraded
mount in the face of a device failure. By default systemd will not
even attempt to mount it if devices are missing.
Is this hopefully seen by upstream as a bug that will be fixed? This removes the system availability benefits of raid, and I've never heard of another system that would behave like this, whether that's zfs, md, or hardware raid.

I agree that it's useful and common for data but booting from degraded RAID is not universally supported (I think it depends on the boot manager). Having said that, the flip side of it is that automatic degraded mount results in a non-redundant system, requiring manual intervention to restore proper redundancy, anyway.

Oh, and it occurred to me that people probably use raid for two slightly different reasons: data safety and availability. The first group may actually prefer (or at least not mind) having to fix the raid before proceeding.

The second group presumably needs not just automatic degraded mode, but a system that maintains hot spares and automatically deploys them.
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