Once upon a time, Zdenek Dohnal <zdohnal@xxxxxxxxxx> said: > I'm not sure if which other applications use the default editor, I know > only git from those. So let's say I will talk about the editor which > git-commit spawns during committing a change. There are a variety of CLI tools that use $EDITOR (do any still use $VISUAL? I still set that out of habit), and usually default to /bin/vi in the absence of a setting. On one desktop system, I see about 20 packages that appear like they might be referencing $EDITOR (just grepping in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin). I've been using vi/vim for almost 30 years, and have set $EDITOR and $VISUAL for the whole time. I honestly didn't realize $EDITOR wasn't being defaulted to /bin/vi, and we just have programs with their own arbitrary default. So I'm definitely +1 to explicitly setting it. I would go with /etc/profile.d snippets, because that's the most obvious and historical place (for Red Hat-derived systems at least). Alternately, the default PAM config loads pam_env, which will look in /etc/security/pam_env.conf, /etc/environment, and ~/.pam_environment by default. There's possibly other things that could be moved here; if this isn't a good use for it, I don't know what is (why are we loading pam_env if we aren't going to use it?). As for the default value of $EDITOR... I don't really care that much, because I both already set it and already know vi. But it is quite obvious that vi is not very user-friendly for the casual/occasional CLI user (someone following some online directions that include "edit this config file" for example). I'd say nano is a little better, as long as you figure out that ^ is Ctrl. At under 3MB installed, nano is relatively light-weight (although about twice as big as vim-minimal :) ). I would say we should keep vim-minimal as part of the minimal install, as obviously there are programs that use it as a default, and it is smaller. As a system administrator and developer, I can change defaults myself. These days, I have an Ansible playbook that I run to set up a system to my preferred liking (used to just be a collection of shell scripts). I would assume that developers already set their own defaults for lots of things, as no two developers can ever seem to agree 100% on how everything should be done. :) -- Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
