At the risk of looking like a complete idiot, I'd like to report an apparently serious problem with the recent glibc etc stuff in (I think) Fedora-Development. In an excess of zeal yesterday I upgraded some packages from the development set and now various programs report "buffer overflow detected" and like messages, and abort. These programs include bash and my usual mail reader. I've reverted my glibc to 2.3.4 from fedora-updates and things are a bit better but not totally fixed, so I figure I've still got some more packages to locate and revert:-( I suspect this behaviour stems from recent builds using GCC 4 and -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 from the release notes and a bit of perusal of the glibc-2.3.5 sources. Could someone (Jakub?) confirm or discredit this notion please? If confirmed, is there a URL that documents the effects of this? Is there a runtime way to turn these from "abort" into "warn but proceed"? If discredited, what then _is_ going on? I'd like to suggest that this kind of build not be done for any release versions; while all the crashing programs are almost certainly buggy, unless the user can switch the behaviour _off_ they will be very very unhappy. Yes it's fedora-devel, and I accept I've shot myself in the foot. But a user hoping to test some fedora-devel stuff can too easily end up with a system that is totally uncooperatives as opposed to having a few apps a bit buggy. Remarks and advice? -- Cameron Simpson <cs@xxxxxxxxxx> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ If it can't be turned off, it's not a feature. - Karl Heuer