On Saturday, June 20, 2020 2:40:48 PM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 5:25 PM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > > > > On Saturday, June 20, 2020 4:42:17 AM MST Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > TL;DR benefits of modularity for Fedora: > > > > > > > > > > > > * Automating build chains for producing artifacts > > > * Straightforward mechanism of producing non-rpm artifacts using our > > > existing tooling (modules -> flatpaks/containers/etc.) > > > > > > > > Both of these have nothing to do with Modularity, and can be done with > > existing RPMs. > > > > > > > They have everything to do with Modularity, because that layer is > where that stuff was implemented. Modularity was the result of the > efforts involved with Factory 2.0, which gave us a lot of improvements > in our build infrastructure tooling for the first time since 2007. > Most of that rolled out in 2017, a full ten years after the last > revamp of our infrastructure. As far as I'm aware, flatpacks can be created without any Modules. Containers certainly can, we've been doing that for over a decade now without them. > > > * Path to provide alternative versions of stacks that don't natively > > > multiversion (Nodejs, Perl, PHP, etc.) > > > > > > > > Modularity doesn't support installing multiple versions of the same > > software. It's one of the key issues with the tech. > > > > > > > Modules can be designed to be parallel installable if the underlying > software natively supports that. For example, Python works that way > now, and thus in RHEL there are parallel versions of Python shipped as > modules. It doesn't change the nature of the software. > > But it makes it easier to make multiple complete, yet conflicting, > collections of a language stack. Where the underlying software already supports it, you don't need Modules to do that, just regular old packages. See Python, for example. Modularity is not a requirement for that. -- John M. Harris, Jr. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
