Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: CMake to do out-of-source builds

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:25 PM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Neal Gompa wrote:
> > If they build a separate folder manually and are already using the
> > VPATH macros, then there's no change. If they're using a different
> > structure, we can adapt them to the standard VPATH macros, and do
> > other adjustments as needed.
>
> The common idiom in KDE packages is:
> mkdir %{_target_platform}
> pushd %{_target_platform}
> %{cmake_kf5} ..
> popd
>
> So:
> 1. Are you going to apply this change also to %{cmake_kf5} or just plain
>    %cmake?

Yeah, this will get applied to %cmake_kf5 as well.

> 2. If a construct like this is used, I guess we will end up with a VPATH
>    inside %{_target_platform}? So the -debugsource package will have a
>    nested structure like Russian matrioshka puppets or Chinese boxes?
>

%_vpath_builddir already is set to %_target_platform, so we'd just
swap one for the other.

> > Defaults matter. And upstreams complain about us not doing out of tree
> > builds by default. Some projects even intentionally break in-source
> > builds and packagers shouldn't struggle to figure out how to do the
> > right thing in that circumstance.
>
> It is unfortunate that some upstreams (including parts of KDE) are doing
> this. This is a very pointless and unhelpful thing to do. I see no benefit
> from disallowing in-source builds, it is just a simple special case and
> normally requires no extra code to support.
>

CMake themselves do not recommend doing in-source builds (and they've
already warned that this will eventually stop working). Meson doesn't
even permit it. These days, Autotools is the weird exception that
mostly mandates in-source builds.



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