On Friday, June 12, 2020 3:50:59 AM MST Ty Young wrote: > Hi all, > > > Gnome recently has stirred up controversy lately and aren't taking other > people's opinions very well, to say the least. So far they've locked > three threads: > > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/gz6fks/we_must_all_speak_up/ > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h107as/i_agree_with_the_we_all_must_ > speak_up_and_the/ > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h0ml37/distrotube_has_posted_a_disgu > sting_video_calling/ > > They have engaged in racism and censorship in their subreddit's comment > sections and, just recently, banned me for posting this article, which > I've made: > > > https://medium.com/@youngty1997/gnome-needs-to-be-better-2151965fd663 > > > You may read it for yourself. In it I cite violations of Gnome's Code of > Conduct by members of the GNOME foundation or the GNOME > foundation(gnome.org email address), both on their subreddit and from > fedora-devel list. I tried to cite as much as possible but Gnome > moderators refused to hand over the moderation logs for when they locked > a thread for reporting a bug when asked. I'm confident that they know > what I'm talking about but just refuse to hand it over. > > > Keep in mind that, in Gnome's subreddit rules, it's perfectly OK to > criticize GNOME in GNOME's subreddit. It's even in the sidebar, which > you cannot see on old reddit(something I've told them about multiple > times, but they've ignored repeatedly to fix): > > > "We do not shy away from criticism, in fact, we encourage it!" > > > GNOME members have recently said that "This mixing of ideas from a wide > range of backgrounds is something that has improved free and open source > software, and it should be highly valued." > > > However, their actions by locking threads and now banned me for sharing > an article I had made goes against this statement. To be crystal clear > here, the opinions shared in the article are not *just* my own. You may > also read people who agree with my opinions in comment sections of the > GNOME subreddit and Fedora subreddit which I shared it to: > > > https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/h7de62/gnome_needs_to_be_better/ > > https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h7ddom/gnome_needs_to_be_better/ > > > Gnome did not say that any new threads on the topic could be made nor > was there any rule breakage that I could find. I would have loved to > cite more things but alas, I don't have access to the information. > > > Sadly the moderators of each respective subreddits have censored the > threads, and not even snew shows them for some reason. I've tried > contacting the fedora subreddit moderators but I have a feeling they > won't ever answer. > > > I was planning on fileing a Code of Conduct violation, but GNOME refused > to turn over the requested moderation logs, so I couldn't do so and, > Gnome's Code of Conduct hints as what the result will be anyway. I have > zero confidence that anything will be done, so here I am sending an email. > > > So, could anything be done about any of this? The projects themselves don't care what we actually support, it's the views of a very vocal handful that get thrown onto those sorts of things. Not a whole lot we can do about it, Ty. -- John M. Harris, Jr. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
