On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 09:09:28AM -0700, erich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm considering moving Fedora Jam from KDE Plasma to GNOME. There are > multiple reasons for this, and I think part of it would be beneficial > to the overall GNOME and Fedora communities as it would be a way to be > helping improve the situation in GNOME that exist as the biggest > objections from the community of musicians and Linux audio enthusiasts > in the overall community. > > The biggest objections are resource usage, since the more resources > that are in use, the more it tends to interfere with real-time audio > processes, causing buffer overruns and/or underruns. These overruns and > underruns are known as Xruns. The fewer Xruns, the better, as Xruns > cause pops during recording. When doing real-time audio work, you want > to have as low of latency as possible which requires as small of a > buffer as possible. The goal is to have a small buffer to get minimal > latency while avoiding Xruns. > > Unfortunately, GNOME has, since 3.0, traditionally interfered with > these processes and caused Xruns. My goal, by moving Fedora Jam from > Plasma to GNOME, is to help GNOME improve this situation. I'll be blunt here. I don't think this is a good _motivation_ for the change. If you want to improve Gnome, you can do switch your own desktop and do tests, and you can write patches, or you can review other's patches, or you can talk on gnome mailing lists to make the issue more prominent. But a spin for users should use whatever is best for the purpose of that spin, period. Users != guinea pigs. > The other reason for switching away from Plasma is the overall negative > attitude I see from Fedora KDE users and former Fedora KDE > contributors. It seems to be an attitude against the progress of > improving the Linux desktop for the better, and simply complaining. I > know some of this attitude comes from Red Hat dropping KDE from being a > desktop in REHL, among other changes. That attitude is regressive, and > does nothing to help the community if all you do is complain. I could > name names, but for the sake of the "Friends" foundation, I will not. I'd prefer to talk about which DE is better (now, or in the foreseeable future). While too many complaints are indeed tiring, those human-related reasons don't seem like enough to switch the desktop either. (I have no knowledge whether KDE or Gnome is better for music. If the pipewire stuff works out then the situation might be quite different than in the past... The switch might be well motivated by this and other reasons, I just think that the two listed above are not good.) Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
