Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: CompilerPolicy Change

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On Fri, 2020-06-05 at 16:23 +0000, devel-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 11:15:39 -0500
> From: Steven Munroe <munroesj52@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: CompilerPolicy
> 	Change
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> I would also add that Clang/LLVM is missing some of the newer C
> language revisions at least for the pppc64le target.
> 
> Both IEEE/ISO  _Float128 and _Decimalxx support is missing. Ie the
> type is not supported or if supported basic arithmetic and math.h
> support is missing. Also finding bugs for in-line assembly and missing
> constraints needed to work around the missing language features.
> 
> Also Clang's poor support for constant folding makes using __int128
> (and vector __int128) harder than it needs to be.
> 
> This is a significant impact for enabling my project (PVECLIB) for
> Clang. As-is a number of project features have been disabled for
> Clang.
Clearly your upstream project is still using GCC then and as such the Fedora
package would continue to use GCC.

We're not changing the default here.  We're just removing the anti Clang/LLVM
policy and allowing upstreams to select the compiler that best suits their needs.
Clearly Clang/LLVM is not the right choice for your project.


> 
> I think Clang needs more time to cook.
I'd respectfully disagree.  There are certain features that GCC supports that
Clang does not and vice-versa.  But broadly they are comparable.  What this means
is some projects that are using bleeding edge features may have a hard need for
one toolchain or the other.  And the proposal I've made accounts for that by
allowing the upstream project to select the compiler.  In your case it would be
GCC.  For others it could well be Clang/LLVM.

jeff



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