Re: Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal: Drop mod_php

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On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 2:05:01 AM MST Joe Orton wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 11:13:35AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 03:53:26PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > 
> > > == Detailed Description ==
> > > By default php-fpm is used for a few versions. mod_php is not
> > > supported for threaded modules. mod_php usage also increases security
> > > risk, sharing the same process than httpd.
> > > 
> > > Drop mod_php from php build. This will only affect user of httpd in
> > > "prefork" mode, which will also use php-fpm.
> > > 
> > > php-fpm is already used but most users of httpd and nginx without any
> > > issue.
> 
> > 
> > Based on the replies downthread, it seems that some people are still
> > using it and want to keep it...
> 
> 
> If the existence of non-zero user demand blocked removal of defunct 
> technology in Fedora I guess we'd still be shipping SysV init.  
> 
> We made the switch from forked-httpd + mod_php to threaded-httpd +
> php-fpm by default in Fedora 27, so we've spread this transition over 
> six full release cycles.  We've	had AFAIK *zero* bug reports about
> making the default switch.
> 
> 
> > Is mod_php a maintainance burder and/or a noticable installation
> > overhead when not used? And if it is, would additional help with the
> > maintainance that was offered make it easier to keep?
> 
> 
> I'm not seeing any technical argument in this thread to support keeping 
> mod_php.  If there were, that would be interesting, but otherwise I 
> think the package owner should be trusted and empowered to make this 
> change.
> 
> Regards, Joe

If it's dropped, it wouldn't really be possible for me to make a mod_php 
package to replace it due to the integration, so I can't really see a way of 
keeping a compat package if it's removed, and keeping it around doesn't break 
anything.

-- 
John M. Harris, Jr.

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