On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 10:01 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > oh and the things udev has to pin devices to names.. The only really interesting mainstream example I can think of right now is that people have to write udev rules to get the /dev/pilot link (most of the time to /dev/ttyUSB0, sometimes to /dev/ttyUSB1 depending on the actual hardware) so pam_console assigns the right permissions for the console user and e.g. gnome-pilot can find the PDA. Actually we now have code in hal to recognize PDA's so a) we can change the permissions accordingly; and b) desktop software can ask HAL about these so there is no need to have a horrible "Select /dev file dialog". I hope at least we can get a) right for FC4. Cheers, David