Re: Fedora 33 Self-Contained Change proposal: Drop mod_php

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On Thursday, May 28, 2020 12:53:26 PM MST Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/drop_mod_php
> 
> == Summary ==
> mod_php (apache2handler) is an optional httpd module to execute PHP
> scripts, not used.
> 
> == Owner ==
> * Name: [[User:Remi| Remi Collet]]
> * Email: remi at fedoraproject dot org
> 
> 
> == Detailed Description ==
> By default php-fpm is used for a few versions. mod_php is not
> supported for threaded modules. mod_php usage also increases security
> risk, sharing the same process than httpd.
> 
> Drop mod_php from php build. This will only affect user of httpd in
> "prefork" mode, which will also use php-fpm.
> 
> php-fpm is already used but most users of httpd and nginx without any
> issue.
 
> The "php" package will be kept as a metapackage, installing (weak
> dependencies) most commonly used extension, thus reducing the
> difference between "yum install php" (flat repository) and "yum module
> install php" (modular repository).
> 
> == Benefit to Fedora ==
> 
> Only provide the modern way to execute PHP in a web server.
> 
> == Scope ==
> 
> PHP rebuild (mod_php build is already conditional)
> 
> * Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> * Release engineering:  N/A
> * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)
> 
> 
> == Upgrade/compatibility impact ==
> N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> 
> == How To Test ==
> 
> * install and play with your web applications
> 
> == User Experience ==
> 
> No change.
> 
> 
> == Dependencies ==
> 
> None (dependency on "php" is already forbidden by Guidelines)
> 
> == Contingency Plan ==
> * revert
> 
> * Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> * Blocks release? N/A (not a System Wide Change), Yes/No
> * Blocks product? product
> 
> == Documentation ==
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Ben Cotton
> He / Him / His
> Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream
> Red Hat
> TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

Please do not drop mod_php. It is NOT the case that "php-fpm is already used 
but most users of httpd and nginx without any issue."

If the rationale behind this is a maintenance burden, I would be happy to 
assist with maintaining the package. Many people still use mod_php, in fact 
it's the standard way to configure PHP with Apache on just about every server 
that is currently running. Dropping mod_php will break a good chunk of users' 
existing servers, needlessly.

-- 
John M. Harris, Jr.
Splentity

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