Re: Retired packages with maintainers

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On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 02:08:12PM +0200, Igor Raits wrote:
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> On Tue, 2020-05-12 at 08:49 +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> > Good Morning Everyone,
> > 
> > A little while ago we have received the request on the infra issue
> > tracker to
> > remove all maintainers of retired packages [1].
> > 
> > So today I decided to look at what this would look like and wrote a
> > script that
> > queries PDC for the list of all branches on all projects [2], gather
> > from it a
> > list of all the packages that are retired on all their branches (so
> > all branches
> > are ``active=false``).
> > For each of these retired project, it queries dist-git to find out if
> > they still
> > have maintainers in addition to the ``orphan`` user.
> > 
> > The outcome of this script can be found there:
> > 
> >   
> > https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/retired_packages_with_maintainers.log
> > 
> > 
> > Some stats about this:
> > - 881 RPM packages are retired and still have maintainers (out of
> > 4322 retired
> >   RPMs).
> > - 662 of them are not orphaned
> > - 42 modules are retired and still have maintainers (out of 42
> > retired modules).
> > - all of them are not orphaned
> > - 2 containers are retired and still have maintainers (out of 3
> > retired
> >   containers).
> > - all of them are not orphaned
> > 
> > Which brings a couple of questions:
> > - Do we have a documented way to mark modules as orphaned or retired?
> 
> Not really, usually this requires releng ticket which most of people
> don't ever create.
> 
> > - Should we orphan all the RPM packages that are retired but not
> > orphaned?
> 
> Doesn't that mean that we will add them back to repos? For me retired
> means that they are not in repos anymore, so what would orphaning
> exactly mean? Or is this just about marking it as "orphaned-retired" in
> dist-git?

To pick an example: denyhosts still has Jason as POC while all its branches are
set as "active=False" in PDC.
So by orphaning the package, I mean setting the "orphan" user as POC for it.

> > Finally, does everyone agree about the original request: "remove all
> > maintainers
> > of retired packages"? Or should we bring this to FESCo?
> 
> I think this is good idea to remove all maintainers from retired
> packages because they essentially can't do anything with them anyway.
> 
> But beware of EPEL-only packages.

The script checks *all* branches in PDC and ensure that they are all
"active=False". So if a package still has active branches in EPEL it should not
show in the list here.


Pierre
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