On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 09:30:26PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 8:49 PM Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 08:20:52PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > On 10. 05. 20 18:37, Scott Talbert wrote: > > > > On Sun, 10 May 2020, Barry Scott wrote: > > > > > > > > > I know that python2 is a dead language, but I have a need to use > > > > > some python 2 code > > > > > on one of my servers. It's clearly on me to maintain the old code if > > > > > I choose to use it. > > > > > > > > > > I use MoinMoin via mon_wsgi. > > > > > > > > > > After upgrading to fedora 32 I took the trouble to install moin > > > > > using the F31 package. > > > > > And all was good. > > > > > > > > > > But I just did my first dnf update and was surprised to find these > > > > > lines in the log of > > > > > the dnf update: > > > > > > > > > > ---> Package moin.noarch 1.9.10-3.fc31 will be erased > > > > > ---> Package python2-mod_wsgi.x86_64 4.6.6-2.fc32 will be erased > > > > > > > > > > What is forcing the erase? I need to workaround this. > > > > > > > > Probably fedora-obsolete-packages: > > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-obsolete-packages/blob/f32/f/fedora-obsolete-packages.spec > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know how to workaround it though as the f-o-p package doesn't > > > > actually get installed anymore - it's work happens through some dnf > > > > tricks now. > > > > > > You should still be able to exclude the package in the dnf config: > > > > > > $ cat /etc/dnf/dnf.conf > > > [main] > > > ... > > > exclude=fedora-obsolete-packages > > > > We really should have made this better announced/documented. > > > > Basically we are switching from 'I go and install > > fedora-obsolete-packages and have opted in to it' to 'I have to go > > explictly exclude it to keep my obsolete packges'. > > Huh? I don't think how fedora-obsolete-packages works, at least not > for a while ... > I have never manually installed fedora-obsolete-packages, it was only > ever automatically pulled in and installed because it "Obsoletes: > something-I-had-installed" before a system upgrade. Yeah, it wasn't necessary to request f-o-p explictly. Packages that were added to f-o-p in the past were added when they broke upgrades. So without f-o-p, the upgrade wouldn't go through because of broken deps, and dnf would pull in f-o-p automatically to make the transaction viable. We now add some packages more proactively, even when they don't block an upgrade, but f-o-p is still used for many packages that would block an upgrade and f-o-p would still be required to satisfy deps for any fedora-version upgrade and would still be pulled in. So the magic trick that makes f-o-p non-installable doesn't change much. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx