Re: Proposal to enable spec file preprocessing step before srpm build

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On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 20:40, Nicolas Mailhot via devel
<devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Le lundi 09 mars 2020 à 00:26 +0100, clime a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> >  the code would fail because at that point, the
> > git metadata is already missing (they are not included in srpms).
>
> Can’t storage of built-time information in srpms be fixed instead of
> adding a whole new overlay over existing tools, that ties building to
> Fedora infra?
>
> There are lots of practical applications of being able to record build
> time info in srpms (for example, I’ve been asked to record the
> buildroot state one way or another, and, IIRC, samba called rpm in its
> scripts for the same reason).

It took me a while to realize you don't mean BUILDTIME header info but
state of build environment that affects build of srpms :).

Anyway, maybe? I think this might be more handy for rpms rather than
for srpms. In most cases, srpms are only source carriers?

If this should be the way for dynamic changelog/release, you would
still first need something that translates relevant git metadata into
something which rpm can work with. I don't think rpm should do it on
its own as it would become tied to git or any other future scm.

Can you elaborate on what samba did? I would like to know because it
sounded interesting.

---

I don't think this proposal ties it to Fedora-Infra. Anyone using
either mock or rpkg-based tool should be able to use it according to
this proposal.

>
> Modules went the overlay route, it was not their best decision.

I don't think it is a proof that overlay-based solution are wrong though.

By the way, modularity, in my opinion, would be great if it produced
rpms (created by mixing/overlaying rpms from built modulemd) instead
of yum sub-repos. That way we wouldn't need to duplicate things like
Obsoletes or Requires on another layer and it would get a proper
binary format for distribution.

>
> Regards
>
> --
> Nicolas Mailhot
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