Re: Getting security updates out to users sooner

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On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:01 am, Demi M. Obenour <demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Finally, some packages should have all updates considered as security updates. This includes anything based on a web browser (Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, Chromium, webkit2gtk, etc), as well the Linux kernel itself. Virtually every update of these packages fixes security vulnerabilities, so updates to them should be considered security updates and treated as such.

I've yet to see a Linux exploit developed for a web engine vulnerability and deployed against users in the wild. Are you aware of any instance of this happening, ever? Only a very tiny minority of web engine vulnerabilities ever have exploits developed for any platform. The usual workflow is: fuzzer finds HTML that triggers an asan complaint, the end, you have a CVE. Now, that doesn't mean Linux exploits don't exist (they surely do). And it doesn't mean the vulnerabilities don't need to be fixed (they do). But let's be reasonable here. Most users are not at risk because we take some time to get the update out to users. Not unless a nation state is out to get you....

Cross-platform logic errors are more worrying, but it's unusual that a bug is so truly urgent that it needs to be fixed immediately. I know this happens with Firefox occasionally, but when it does, I don't think a next-day response is so bad.

We do need to get updates out in a timely manner, but I would say a couple weeks is sufficiently timely for most security updates. At least with WebKit, regressions are not uncommon and a few days of testing is important to ensure quality user experience.

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