Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: systemd-resolved

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On 4/15/20 17:06, James Cassell wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Daniel Walsh wrote:
>> On 4/15/20 10:07, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>> On Di, 14.04.20 15:57, James Cassell (fedoraproject@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Ben Cotton wrote:
>>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd-resolved
>>>>>
>>>>> == Summary ==
>>>>>
>>>>> Enable systemd-resolved by default. glibc will perform name resolution
>>>>> using nss-resolve rather than nss-dns.
>>>>>
>>>>> == Owner ==
>>>>> * Name: [[User:catanzaro| Michael Catanzaro]]
>>>>> * Email: <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>> == Detailed Description ==
>>>>>
>>>>> We will enable systemd-resolved by default.
>>>> Does this require systemd to be running? How does this affect DNS resolution on a Fedora 33 container?
>>> Depends.
>>>
>>> If a container manager copies in /etc/resolv.conf from the host into
>>> the container on container *start*, it might be wise to copy in
>>> /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf instead of /etc/resolv.conf, if it
>>> exists. That file in /run contains the currently up-to-date upstream
>>> DNS info literally.
>> Containers copy the /etc/resolv.conf. /etc/hosts on creation, that way
>> they can modify it internally,
>>
>> It looks like podman will just follow the link.  I setup this simple test
>>
>> # ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
>> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 16 Apr 15 13:25 /etc/resolv.conf -> /run/resolv.conf
>> # cat /etc/resolv.conf
>> # Generated by NetworkManager
>> search redhat.com
>> nameserver 10.5.30.160
>> nameserver 10.11.5.19
>> nameserver 192.168.1.1
>> # podman run fedora cat /etc/resolv.conf
>> search redhat.com
>> nameserver 10.5.30.160
>> nameserver 10.11.5.19
>> nameserver 192.168.1.1
>>
>> So as long as the
>>
>> /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf
>>
>> file is properly formated, our container engines will just work.
>>
> I think there's some existing black magic to handle the case when resolv.conf references 127.0.0.1... maybe it already also works for 127.0.0.53. Otherwise, maybe it could be patched to handle 127.0.0.0/8 in the same way. Then no special casing for resolved would be needed.
>
> V/r,
> James Cassell
Yes I believe the container engines see 127.0.0.1 and switch it to 8.8.8.8
>>> If a container builder copies in /etc/resolv.conf during build time,
>>> it probably should insert something like 8.8.8.8 as DNS servers there,
>>> also replacing whatever is there.
>>>
>>> Note that the logic in systemd and resolved is very defensive: if
>>> /etc/resolv.conf is not a symlink to
>>> /run/systemd/resolve/{stub-,}resolv.conf then resolved will consume
>>> /etc/resolv.conf instead of managing it (see other mail), hence a
>>> container mgr/builder that wants to direct DNS traffic somewhere
>>> should just override the file to whatever it wants, and things will
>>> just work, regarldess if resolved runs in the container or not, and
>>> resolved -- if used -- will honour whatever the container mgr/builder
>>> put there.
>>>
>>> Lennart
>>>
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