On Sat, 2020-04-04 at 06:55 +0200, Jan Pazdziora wrote: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 03:12:35PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > > Maybe libsecret spec could provide an empty libsecret-never-fail subpackage > > that would hard-require a libsecret server and the applications like geary would > > require that subpackage. (Alternatively libsecret-devel could provide a RPM > > macro that the applications use to add a direct dependency on a server.) But > > this abstractions is quite academic provided the only libsecret server in > > Fedora is gnome-keyring. > > I wouldn't focus on a particular package because the situation can > repeat with any other package in the future, and would make the question > more generic. > > Is it expected, are we OK with the fact, that with default settings > of weak dependencies enabled in dnf and anaconda, installing @group > can eventually pull in way more packages than originally listed > in the group, beyond the hard dependencies? Should following the weak > dependencies be a boolean yes/no setting, or should it be a score and > should the resolver have an option to favour weak dependencies when > resolving the first level of depenencies from the original package > list but decrease (perhaps radically) favouring them in next and > next-next-levels, potentially even taking into account if the > intermediate dependencies were explicit ones or implicit libraries? > > In other words, if I list packages A, B, C in transaction, I might > want to have their weak dependencies thrown onto the system as well. > But if A requires libX.so and libY.so, and package X requires G and > that has weak dependency on K, I might not care about K. > > If I explicitly say I want G, then again, sure, give me K as well. Boy, I don't know about you but I sure am looking forward to taking a degree in math to understand why packages are or are not installed! (you know, as opposed to the whole thing with the rubber chicken and the pulley that I do right now) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx