Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

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On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:49:13 -0400, rosser.bjr@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:36 AM Alex Scheel <ascheel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> >
> > I believe we need a different way to engage the rest of our packager
> > base.
> 
> I'm a packager who has been staying silent, but I generally strongly
> agree with the points that Adam, Miro, Neal, and others have been
> making with a few caveats:
> 
> * I don't _really_ mind if we wind up using Gitlab over Pagure, but if
> we do, I do feel pretty strongly that we should use Gitlab CE and
> self-host it-- I don't think it would be right for Fedora to use an
> externally hosted solution and I don't think we should use the
> enterprise edition.
> 
> * I don't like how this process has been conducted, and I think that
> official responses from CPE thus far haven't really made things
> better-- if anything, the "we apologize, but this is the decision
> we've made" attitude is making things worse.
> 
> * I fear that, once again, we haven't adequately understood the
> consequences of replacing pagure and some of the features that were
> recently-- finally!-- added to it in order to replace missing pkgdb2
> functionality will again be lost for a long period of time... and
> nothing I've read in any of these threads so far has helped reassure
> me that's not the case.

+1 to everything Ben said (now that feedback from us "silent types"
has been explicitly solicited :)

Best Regards,
--Gabriel Somlo
 
> Not saying you're wrong that it would be nice to have the ability to
> poll a broader selection of packagers. But I'm not sure using the
> FESCo voting system would really accomplish that either. How many
> people actually vote in FESCo elections relative to the number of
> active packagers? I'm sure you could argue that, depending on the
> turnout, the results wouldn't be necessarily representative either.
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