On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:49:13 -0400, rosser.bjr@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 9:36 AM Alex Scheel <ascheel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > I believe we need a different way to engage the rest of our packager > > base. > > I'm a packager who has been staying silent, but I generally strongly > agree with the points that Adam, Miro, Neal, and others have been > making with a few caveats: > > * I don't _really_ mind if we wind up using Gitlab over Pagure, but if > we do, I do feel pretty strongly that we should use Gitlab CE and > self-host it-- I don't think it would be right for Fedora to use an > externally hosted solution and I don't think we should use the > enterprise edition. > > * I don't like how this process has been conducted, and I think that > official responses from CPE thus far haven't really made things > better-- if anything, the "we apologize, but this is the decision > we've made" attitude is making things worse. > > * I fear that, once again, we haven't adequately understood the > consequences of replacing pagure and some of the features that were > recently-- finally!-- added to it in order to replace missing pkgdb2 > functionality will again be lost for a long period of time... and > nothing I've read in any of these threads so far has helped reassure > me that's not the case. +1 to everything Ben said (now that feedback from us "silent types" has been explicitly solicited :) Best Regards, --Gabriel Somlo > Not saying you're wrong that it would be nice to have the ability to > poll a broader selection of packagers. But I'm not sure using the > FESCo voting system would really accomplish that either. How many > people actually vote in FESCo elections relative to the number of > active packagers? I'm sure you could argue that, depending on the > turnout, the results wouldn't be necessarily representative either. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx