Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Sqlite RpmDB

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On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:41:08PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote:
...snip...
> 
> No such things needed at this time. The database change is a separate change
> and does NOT come bundled with RPM 4.16, we'll only even consider switching
> that once 4.16 has had a proper shakedown.

ok, great. 
> > 
> > In either case, it may be hard to have cycles for this while datacenter
> > move is happening. It would help if we had a ballpark at least for when
> > it will land / some folks willing to get bootstrapping working in koji.
> > 
> > Or what would you think of the idea of landing it in rawhide, but
> > keeping default bdb until after we have the move done and can upgrade
> > builders to f32?
> 
> This was the plan all along: the dust of RPM 4.16 landing in rawhide needs
> to settle first before any database changes are considered, excact schedule
> depending on all manner of things. I thought this was clear from the SQLite
> change proposal but guess not.

Sorry if it was, perhaps I just missed that. ;( 

> If it was up to us only, I recon we'd be looking to switch over to sqlite
> somewhere between 2-4 weeks from the time 4.16 lands in rawhide but our
> schedule is flexible here. What ballpark dates would we be looking at with
> the datacenter move and builder upgrade?

ok, 2-4 weeks from tomorrow would be between the 14th and the 28th?

Fedora 32 preferred release date is the 21st. I'm really not sure we
will have cycles to update all the builders in less than a week. 
Whats the impact of using rawhide rpm on f31 builders? Will there be
deps/issues ?

We probibly won't move to f32 on the builders until we are installing
new ones in the new datacenter and switching to those. But I very leary
of also replacing rpm on them at the same time... I guess it could work
and we could always back it out if not. That would be the last week of
may or so that we switch to those. 

So, I guess the two windows are: as soon as it looks ok with f31
builders or last week or may/first week of june with f32. Or late june
when we are done moving things. 

Thoughts?

kevin

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