On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 3:50:34 PM CET Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 01:04:58PM +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote: > > > logrotate is a utility designed to simplify the administration of log > > files on a system which generates a lot of log files. It used to be > > triggered by cron. The cron hook was unconditionally installed with > > logrotate but it took effect only if a cron daemon was installed. > > > > Starting with Fedora 30, logrotate is triggered by a systemd timer > > instead. In order to make updates smoother, the timer was enabled on > > updates in case a cron daemon was configured on the system. > > > > The timer is currently not enabled on fresh installs to avoid surprises > > (such as data lost) on systems where logrotate is installed but not > > actually used. logrotate can also be triggered independently of > > systemd/cron and can be even run by non-privileged users to rotate logs > > they have access to. > > > > Some people think that the logrotate timer should be enabled by default on > > all systems where the logrotate package is installed: > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1655153#c4 > > > > > > Do you think it would be a good idea? > > > Yes, I think it's reasonable to enable it by default. People should just > not install logrotate package if it's not necessary. We should also make > sure that the package is not Required from those packages that use the > journal. > (I think that for most cases text logs are not necessary, and journald > is a better approach, but for the cases where text logs are created, > logrotate is something that people want 99% of the time, so we should > make it easy to have the right thing happen if the package is installed.) > > Note: we have a documented process for enabling services: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/DefaultServices/. > logrotate.timer satisfies the requirements to be enabled without a fesco > exception. So it should be enough to file a PR for fedora-release. > Zbyszek Thank you all for sharing your opinion on this! I have opened a pull request to enable logrotate.timer by default: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-release/pull-request/111 Kamil _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
