Just so you all know - yes I do need the whole source code to compile my drivers - also I do know that <most> people won't need the kernel-sourcecode and that the headers will suffice but this isn't the case here. <most> people won't be compiling drivers anyway. As for the convenience (it isn't hard to put a link in.... etc) no it isn't but it is a time wasting pain in the arse to find out where rpm puts all this rubbish - just because I use FC doesn't mean I am endowed with special pyschic powers that mean I (end user) automatically know what (you developer / packager) know and therefore it isn't reasonable to assume that I know where to put the link - it takes time to find this out and this is wasted time.
In order to save people the deadful inconvenience of downloading the kernel source as opposed to the kernel headers you could just tell people that - the kernel-sourcecode package still remains useful and a valuable time saving resource.
I am detecting a degree of hostility from the posts I have received, a kind of "if you don't do it our way get stuffed" attitude which is rather unhelpful and rather charmless. I am guessing that if this is representative of the powers that be in the FC development community that the chances of the the kernel source code being put back in the distro are rather slim at this point. In which case thanks very much for nothing, I'll find another distro.
SA
From: Emmanuel Seyman <seyman@xxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core <fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Development discussions related to Fedora Core <fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: kernel source code
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:26:08 +0200
On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 10:42:54AM +0000, not disclosed wrote: > > What exactly is the problem with including kernel-sourcecode?
It's a huge file (30+ Mb?) that you are trying to force everybody to download and that very few people need (even the people who believe they need it aren't always right).
Teeling people to grab the kernel src.rpm solves this problem. People who need the source still have, those who don't need it can stop downloading it over and over again.
> It makes it easy to take someone else's driver and compile it against your
You should not need the kernel source to recompile a driver.
> source, it makes it easy to nobble the source and recompile - I have spent
> the last hour trying to install the source from
> the src rpm following the instructions in
> http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc3/x86/
???
This took me all of two minutes.
Emmanuel
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