We didn't pick the time at random, 14:00 UTC is the time when Fedora release gets out. We thought if we are changing the time, we should align it with the only other time constrained task, that is, Fedora release. 00:00 UTC is definitely confusing for some people as they complained about it, but 14:00 UTC should not make it anymore confusing. Also, as a side note, people will get 14 more hours to get their stuff into the release before the freeze starts, that should help the maintainers as well. On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 10:51 AM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 7:58 AM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Neal Gompa wrote: > > > 14:00 UTC is 9:00 EST, so it basically means to everyone: do > > > everything the day before. > > > > "Do everything the day before" is exactly what was confusing about the 00:00 > > UTC deadline, so I do not see how the change to 14:00 UTC fixes the issue. > > It is customary to give inclusive deadlines, i.e., a deadline of day X means > > I have up to AND INCLUDING day X to do the work. > > > > I do not see why the deadlines were not changed to 23:59 UTC deadlines > > instead, which would also not have meant any actual change in process > > (unlike this 14:00 UTC change), just a change of how the deadlines are > > announced (subtract 1 day from all the posted deadlines). > > > > The folks that actually are doing this work are also based on US > Eastern Time, specifically out in the Boston, MA area. It is much > easier for them to pull this off by saying "welp, it's the start of > the day for me and this is the day we push the button, so let's push > it!". Previously they had to do it technically *after* the end of *the > previous day* their time, which made things confusing. > > > -- > 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
