Great feedback. Thanks! :-)
On Tuesday, February 4, 2020, 11:19:31 AM EST, Michal Srb <msrb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 5:07 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 10:36 AM Michal Srb <msrb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Hi Bill,
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 4:29 PM Bill Chatfield via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> I may take it as soon as I figure out how.
>>
>> But, if you're building a Java app, you probably use Maven to build it, so Maven is going to download from mavencentral, not the version packaged in Fedora. So I'm beginning to wonder how useful the packaged apps are. Am I missing something?
>
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> Packaged Java apps are useful, but packaged libraries (if not used by any Java app in the distribution) not so much. Nobody's going to develop anything against them. Like you said, developers will fetch what they need from Maven Central.
>
If we don't have packaged libraries, nobody can ship packaged
applications. And there are definitely cases where people develop
against packaged Java libraries. I used to work in one such case.
Nowadays I live primarily in the Python ecosystem, and I can live
entirely in packaged libraries there too. It'd be nice to have this
again for Java.
This is more complicated and it would probably deserve a separate thread :) Java and Python are completely different ecosystems. And Java ecosystem (apps/libs) is just inherently unfriendly to Linux distributions. It's not necessary bad or broken - it's just different.
I am curious: what was the reason to develop against the packaged Java libraries?
Thanks,
Michal
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