Re: Copr Build System - review of 2019 and vote for features in 2020

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On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 11:59:50 PM CET Jakub Kadlcik wrote:
> > For what it's worth, I never got the promised notification for my Coprs.
> > The legacy chroots are just gone forever with no warning whatsoever.
> 
> I am truly sorry to hear that. I am afraid, that there is no way to recover
> those data. Thank you for reporting it though, I have investigated the
> issue and did as much as I could to prevent it from happening in the future.
> 
> I wrote some unit tests for the feature and more importantly
> added a constraint, so we won't remove any chroot, that we haven't sent
> a notification email about. I have also found a possible cause of the issue,
> so I temporarily disabled the feature.
> 
> Tests, fix, and explanation in https://pagure.io/copr/copr/pull-request/1229

Just one missing hint I'm not sure is clear, you can anytime take a look at:

    Project -> Settings -> Repositories

and prolong the life of outdated directory to 180 days.  Also, when the chroot
is EOLed we are used to send an email to [1], so till this bug is fixed - as a
workaround - you can poll there.

[1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/copr-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/

Sorry for the lost emails,
Pavel

> Jakub
> 
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 1:09 PM Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > * building containers, ISOs, disk images
> >
> > +1 (at least installable live ISOs).
> >
> > > using kiwi and/or appliance-tools+livecd-tools/lorax
> >
> > I vote for livecd-creator from livecd-tools, it is the easiest to use
> > (and in particular, livecd-creator accepts kickstarts from livemedia-creator
> > with little to no changes, whereas the opposite requires many more changes),
> > the easiest to do local testing with (because it supports caching
> > packages without complicated workarounds), and probably also the easiest to
> > integrate into the Copr setup (because it has less stringent setup
> > requirements).
> >
> > (Neal, I know I don't have to explain the rationale to YOU, but the
> > other readers should know the rationale. :-) )
> >
> > > * automatic rebuilds of packages when dependencies change
> >
> > I am not sure about that one. I would at least like it to be optional
> > if implemented (because I would probably not enable it for most of my
> > Coprs), and I am concerned about the resource usage.
> >
> > > The second item would make Rawhide builds so much more useful since
> > > they won't just silently remain broken.
> >
> > Most likely they'll just fail to build instead of silently failing
> > to install. ;-) (And then they'll still fail to install because there was
> > no successful rebuild.)
> >
> > Sure, there are cases where a straight rebuild (for a new dependency
> > soname) will help, but judging from my experience with Rawhide FTBFSes,
> > often, a rebuild with no changes won't even succeed where no soname was
> > bumped (and soname bumps typically indicate some API change that makes it
> > more likely that the rebuild will fail).
> >
> >         Kevin Kofler
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