Re: What would it take to drop release and changelog from our spec files? (and do we want to?)

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On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 10:24:53 AM CET Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 09:36:27AM +0100, Pavel Raiskup wrote:
> > On Friday, January 10, 2020 5:36:46 PM CET Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> > > Do we want to drop release and changelog from our spec file?
> > 
> > No.  People continuously tend to forget that '%changelog' is for
> > end-users.  Especially if some distributions already claim they can live
> > fine without %changelog...
> > 
> > Unless product managers say that 'rpm -q --changelog' is not a thing
> > nowadays, we should at least _allow_ being "nice" to end users.  So
> > whatever approach we use by default -- the maintainers still have to have
> > a chance to maintain %changelog manually.
> 
> rpm -q --changelog is a thing, which is why we're discussing the idea to remove
> the changelog from the *spec file* not from the (s)RPM.
> 
> And yes I agree that whichever approach is designed, it should be made opt-in,
> if only to allow to gather feedback and improve the process.

Thanks.

While we are on it..  did you consider to implement some nice
Release/%changelog workflow in src.fedoraproject.org?  I filled now
https://pagure.io/pagure/issue/4714

Pavel


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