Re: Effort to remove libdb

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:09 AM Filip Janus <fjanus@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> as you maybe know the BerkeleyDB 6.x has a more restrictive license than the previous versions (AGPLv3 vs. LGPLv2), and due to that many projects cannot use it.
> Few years ago there was an effort to reduce the number of dependent packages on BerkeleyDB(libdb). And nowadays situation seems to be almost the same. Here is
> the link with packages dependent on libdb[1] from previous effort, which is truthful for nowadays situation. As a member of the database team which is responsible for libdb, I would like to know your opinions on this problem, because many components have many specific cases where is libdb used.
>
> Nowadays we would like to remove libdb from Fedora as soon as possible, in the best case  from Fedora 33. But I am afraid, that it isn't real.
>
> I have discussed this issue with my colleagues and we propose an approach. We found that the biggest problem would occur in updating components from versions that support libdb to versions without this support. Here could arise problems of inconsistency.
>
> Our approach assumes to convert old libdb databases to other supported database format in each package related to this libdb issue. Result would be Fedora without libdb.
> I know that this approach probably isn't perfect.
>
> Therefore  I would like to ask for Your opinions, suggestions and every problem clarification.
> Thank you very much for any help. I welcome every opinion.
>
>
> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User:Pkubat/Draft_-_Removing_BerkeleyDB_from_Fedora&rd=User%3AJstanek%2FDraft_-_Removing_BerkeleyDB_from_Fedora
>

I'm very much in support of a plan for this. In my opinion, the sooner
the better.

At least for RPM, I have personally been testing the non-BDB backends
since they were introduced in various environments. I'm currently
using the NDB backend for a couple of projects (POSIX stack for
Windows, and a devtool stack for macOS), and have been testing the
SQLite backend in rpm git master since it was introduced a few months
ago in a Linux distribution.

Also in the RPM case, support recently landed for reading BDB rpmdb
without libdb for supporting inspecting and converting from a BDB
rpmdb. So it's technically possible to do a conversion from bdb to
something else without libdb being linked to it.




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