On Mo, 06.01.20 14:53, Michael Catanzaro (mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx) wrote: > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 7:09 pm, Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > - facebook is working on making oomd something that just works for > > everyone, they are in the final rounds of canonicalizing the > > configuration so that it can just work for all workloads without > > tuning. The last bits for this to be deployable are currently being > > done on the kernel side ("iocost"), when that's in, they'll submit > > oomd (or simplified parts of it) to systemd, so that it's just there > > and works. It's their expressive intention to make this something > > that also works for desktop stuff and requires no further > > tuning. they also will do the systemd work necessary. time frame: > > half a year, maybe one year, but no guarantees. > > Asking around, I understand oomd only operates at the cgroup level, i.e. it > kills an entire cgroup at once, not individual processes. So I understand > this would also depend on GNOME-level work to ensure individual applications > get launched in their own systemd scopes, yes? That would be a good idea, yes. But there'd be a knob for that in the unit files. I mean, OOMPolicy= currently can be set to "stop", "kill" or "continue", where "stop" means "when a process of service X is OOM killed, attempt to shutdown all of X in a friendly way"; "kill" means "when a process of service X is OOM killed, forcibly kill all other processes of X too"; "continue" means "if a process of service X is OOM killed, do nothing else". The expectation here is that most services will want "stop" but services that are more "application servers" than an individual service (think: apache with its cgi scripts or crond with its cronjobs) would set OOMPolicy=continue, since if one of their jobs misbheaves they probably should continue running. But yeah, the focus where things are going are clearly towards making a cgroup the unit that is managed as a whole. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Berlin _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx