On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 2:33:06 AM MST Kamil Paral wrote: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:23 AM John M. Harris Jr <johnmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > We have 2 release-blocking media, so the total time is somewhere between > > > 2-3 hours (likely closer to 2 hours, because netinst installation is way > > > faster due to downloading packages from the net instead of copying them > > > from the disc). That's not the main problem, though. The main problem is > > > that during that time, one or two of our test machines in our office is > > > fully occupied with spinning the discs, and we can't use it for anything > > > else. That means all other bare-metal testing needs to wait. As Adam > > > already pointed out, sometimes we need to check the final candidate > > > composes in a single day, i.e. in the standard 8 working hours (and yes, > > > > we > > > > > often work overtime in these cases). Blocking half of our bare-metal > > > > office > > > > > test machines for 2 hours out of 8 is not a small deal. > > > > Do you need more test hardware? Honestly, that's what this sounds like. > > Not really. Our office cubicle is unfortunately not inflatable. We have 2-3 > dedicated bare-metal test machines available during the test cycle, and we > can't really fit any more. > > > > It's simple to say "no user interaction is required", but that's not > > > completely true either. If you want to do the QA job properly, you need > > > > to > > > > > have an eye on the media consistency check, because we've had issues in > > > > the > > > > > past where it timed out and either considered it a pass or fail (both > > > are > > > incorrect). So you can't simply walk away and come back and consider it > > > > OK > > > > > when it reached the installer, you really need to watch the progress in > > > certain critical points. Once the UI is ready, it is much slower than > > > > when > > > > > booting from USB. So you often spend 10, 20 seconds staring at the > > > screen > > > until it decides to do something. > > > > Is that due to the hardware under test, or is it a result of scratched > > media? > > Due to the fact that optical media are just glacially slow. I don't know if > you have ever tried Workstation Live from a fast USB3 media, but the > difference is night and day. Optical media is not *that* slow though. There's certainly a difference, but optical isn't so slow that you have to stare at a blank screen while it loads. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx