On Tue, 2019-12-17 at 10:43 +0100, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 2:31 AM Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > On Mon, 2019-12-16 at 16:52 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > I've offered to take on responsibility for these tests in this thread, > > and I'm > > > still open to that. This is still important to many users, and I'm more > > than > > > happy to volunteer my time to support those users. > > > > If we can actually rely on you to show up and do these tests - within, > > remember, sometimes a very short time frame - that'd be great. However, > > we've gone through this loop before with some other criteria (we > > propose dropping them, someone complains and promises to do the > > testing, then doesn't actually do it in the end) enough times that we'd > > be a bit cautious about this. Still, we have F32 Beta coming up quite > > soon, we could potentially delay this feature and see how that goes - > > see if anyone besides RH Fedora QE staff shows up to run the tests... > > > > I think having community help with optical testing shouldn't really affect > the outcome of the proposal. We claim that the importance of optical media > has diminished and it's now below the threshold for granting it a > release-blocking status. That's not really affected by whom executes the > tests. To me it is, in a weird way: I tend to view the presence of someone who's willing to actually *do* something as a proxy for there being others who care about it. For instance on the 32-bit x86 topic - if the x86 SIG had *worked* and we'd had one or two people who really cared about it show up to do the work, like we have for ARM or ppc64, I'd have been more inclined to believe there were more people out there who really needed to run Fedora on 32-bit x86. So if the question is "do people really want Fedora on physical optical disc?", I'm more likely to believe the answer is 'yes' if one or two of them shows up to actually test it... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx