On Sunday, December 15, 2019 7:54:05 PM MST Ryan Walklin wrote: > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019, at 1:39 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > > Please see the examples cited earlier in the thread, of systems that > > cannot be installed from USB. > > > Those are pretty vague references to old workstations and servers rather > than specific make/model. I can provide an example or two, but I'd rather not waste time compiling a list. A good example, any server using iDRAC6,7,8 or 9, such as a PowerEdge R440. These are in the interesting edge case that I mentioned, where it supports USB boot if you physically connect a USB drive, but you can't use USB images over the iDRAC. An example of a system that cannot boot from USB at all is a ThinkPad T400, running default boot firmware, which is what most users that own that laptop would have. > Can you not use a generic rescue DVD/CD running > something like rEFInd http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind to then actually boot > from USB? Then you wouldn't have to faff keeping your optical media up to > date anyway. I have no idea whether or not that'd work, but I generally don't mess around with random tools like that to try to get something to boot. Looks like it requires UEFI, so I'm going to go with "Not in most cases", though it might work for the systems with UEFI implementations that don't support USB boot. When I'm wearing my user hat, I just want it to work! It currently does, and it doesn't actually take a lot of maintenance to keep it working. I'd be happy to jump on the list of people doing QA of physical DVDs, so long as we can keep it as release-blocking, because this WILL hurt users if it is dropped, and we WILL have a release with broken optical media installation, most likely in the first release to adopt this Change. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
