On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 19:04 +0000, Carlos Rodrigues wrote: > Dave Jones wrote: [snip] > Maybe those could be chosen for Fedora/RedHat too, and let people with a > need for huge numbers of processes increase them. Those kind of people > should also know how to do "man ulimit". I think it's the other way around. A user that should give shell access to untrusted third parties on a machine with valuable resources, is not a user but a sysadmin and should know - at least - how to set less permissive ulimits. Desktop users sitting in front of their single-user PCs, should not know a word about "man ulimit" to use their boxes at full power. > When one advocates in favor of unix-like systems (as opposed to > Windows systems) mentioning "convenience vs. security", it is > embarassing to be given counter-examples like fork-bombs. I would be very funny to listen to someone saying, "Yeah, I picked 50 virus through Outlook this month, but if I get a shell account in your box I can fork bomb it." -- Iago Rubio