Am 29.11.19 um 11:18 schrieb Miro Hrončok: > My effort is to raise the awareness about he failure. Despite my large effort, > I cannot possibly fix all the build failures in Fedora. I just wanted to mention that I appreciate your efforts. I think the "fallout" from retired packages may be a symptom I noticed in the past months: It seems as if a lot of Fedora maintainers are actually not participating anymore. With the FTBFS/retirement policy this is just easier to see. <rant> I had a lot of problems getting *any* response from several packagers even when sending a complete pull request which adds just some simple stuff (e.g. GPG source file verification). This was just simple packaging stuff not something which might require actual coding skills. Getting useful packages being added to EPEL8 has been a very frustrating so far. </rant> However I should mention that some packagers were being very helpful. One thing which I think is holding Fedora back is the complicated process of getting commit access to some packages. If the maintainer is not responding the only thing you could do is to file a non-responsive maintainer ticket. (And how long should I wait before doing this? If I file a ticket and wait 3-4 weeks before starting the process, usually I already built a workaround so I don't care anymore about the Fedora package.) Each package is somehow its own "island" and sometimes I think the packaging process only works for "provenpackagers" and people in the stewardship-sig. Felix _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx