As an example of the sorry state of the Java SIG, pdfbox and batik were orphaned 2 weeks ago, but those are dependencies of fop, which is a dependency of publican, which is used by appstream to build documentation, and half of the distribution (including the entire KF5 stack, through extra- cmake-modules) depends on appstream. Java is not an isolated island (despite its name ;-) ). Most Java stuff can be done without (and upstream JARs used instead), but the dependencies of non-Java packages MUST be taken care of by somebody. Kevin Kofler _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx