On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 6:18:00 AM MST Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 12. 11. 19 14:00, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > Dne 05. 11. 19 v 16:03 Ben Cotton napsal(a): > > > >> == Summary == > >> Python 3 traditionally in Fedora was built with a shared library > >> libpython3.?.so and the final binary was dynamically linked against > >> that shared library. This change is about creating the static library > >> and linking the final python3 binary against it, as it provides > >> significant performance improvement, up to 27% depending on the > >> workload. The static library will not be shipped. The shared library > >> will continue to exist in a separate subpackage. In essence, python3 > >> will no longer depend on libpython. > > > > > > It seems that we have one group of people who prefer speed and another > > group of people who prefer saved space. > > > > Instead of focusing on a swiss-knife to satisfy everybody (which will not > > work), can we have python3-static **and** python3-dynamic (*) packages > > and let users decide which one will be installed and handle > > `/usr/bin/python3` using `alternatives(8)`? > > Then FESCO can "only" decide which one will be the default. And that is > > far less controversial than deciding whether you will be forced to use > > a time-saving or space-saving solution. > > > While I realize that this might actually be a clever thing to do, as the > Python maintainer, I don't want this for various reasons. Most > importantly, it means we need to to "support" twice that many Python > interpreters. > > It would also create a problem in RPM requirements. > > Suppose a package need /usr/bin/python3.8 to be dynamically linked. How do I > express that? It would need to harcode some kind of > /usr/libexec/python3.8-dynamic? Would this require custom shebangs... etc.? > I really don't want to go that way. It's bad on RHEL 8 already, with > "platform-python". > > Note that this is my personal opinion, not a team opinion. > > -- > Miro Hrončok > -- > Phone: +420777974800 > IRC: mhroncok > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List > Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List > Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx If that software was to be packaged, in this case, you'd simply: Requires: python3 change the shebang to /path/to/my/python3 However, I believe there's a third option here. It could be as simple as providing a python3-static in addition, and NOT using `alternatives`. This way, packages and scripts that actually need the performance improvements can directly call python3-static, and everything else just continues to work as it does now. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
